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Pros and Cons

Updated: Sep 18, 2023

Here's a suggested list of pros and cons of the Torrington Lodge Car Park development proposals. Please let us have your views / suggestions:


Pros (according to EBC and Kilo’s websites and statements)

  • Greater choice of supermarkets in the village

  • A “high-end” foodstore” for Claygate

  • The "very best of M&S food with displays brimming with great quality, trusted produce"

  • A "show-stopping M&S Bakery with fresh daily baked bread and pastries"

  • 40 parking spaces for shoppers

  • 90 minutes free off-street parking for shoppers

  • 2 electric charge points

  • 8 flats for temporary accommodation

  • 40 new jobs

  • 2 new bus shelters

  • Removal of unnecessary street furniture

  • New footpath from Oaken Lane via Derwent Close

  • More customers walking to the shops reducing car use

  • More visitors attracted to Claygate

  • More trips / increased footfall to the existing shops

  • £20,000 pa savings for Elmbridge Council

  • £700,000 pa revenue for 15 years for Elmbridge Council (but £7.5m cost)


Cons (according to Claygate residents and traders)

  • Out of character, bulky 3-storey building overlooking neighbouring properties

  • Increase in road traffic and congestion on roads into village from extra visitors

  • Increased risk of accidents on our narrow roads (70% of police speeding letters are sent to non-Claygate residents)

  • Increase in noise and air pollution from more cars coming into the village

  • Number and frequency of M&S lorries required to deliver stock

  • Noise and air pollution from M&S delivery lorries

  • Narrow B roads in and out of Claygate not suitable for large delivery lorries

  • Traffic hold ups in Hare Lane caused by delivery lorries entering and leaving

  • Limited space in car park for delivery lorries (how will they turn round/reverse out?)

  • Safety issues of lorries driving past entrance to Pippa’s House nursery

  • Loss of all day car parking spaces for existing businesses

  • No parking provided for M&S staff

  • No parking provided for the residents of the flats above M&S or their visitors

  • Increase in street parking due to insufficient car park spaces - Hare Lane already regularly blocked due to cars parked on both sides

  • Increase in traffic and street parking in Derwent Close

  • Impact on levels of anti-social behaviour if Derwent Close footpath re-opened

  • Impact on viability of Co-op

  • Impact on the viability of existing independent traders (supermarkets can suck the lifeblood out of local economies)

  • Impact on rents of existing retail premises

  • Impact on vitality of village if traders can't compete with M&S and are forced out of business

  • Impact on local economy if existing traders are forced out of business

  • Insensitive socio-economic mix - housing vulnerable residents above a high-end store

  • Loss of village atmosphere and unique character due to size and scale of development and influx of traffic from neighbouring areas

  • £7.5 million cost to Elmbridge Council and risk of venture

  • Loss of opportunity to provide more much needed local housing on a brown field site

  • Loss of opportunity for Claygate residents to have a say in what they want for the site in line with the Council's "Placemaking" policy

  • Impact in longer term on desirability of Claygate as a place to live

Where's the balance ?







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